Saturday, September 27, 2014

Winning 1st Place in PvP - A Point of View

Ever wonder what is going on in Team Battle and what it takes to win the weekly competition? Well, I got in touch with last week's winner and asked her for an interview so we could get to know her more! Clara was the first place champion for week ending September 22, 2014. Clara is a kind, good friend and a long time supporter of mine, so I will be closely moderating replies to this post. Please be courteous!


Panicbutton: Hello Clara (Siam.CRTG) and thank you very much for agreeing to my interview questions. Congratulations on your recent First Place victory in the weekly Team Battle! "Line Rangers & Friends" is very lucky to get to know you and get a closer look at the top tier of Line Rangers Team Battle through your eyes.  

P: How long have you been playing Line Rangers? 
Clara: I've been playing since the game newly started end of March, when they launched the Line Rangers stickers and I downloaded the game to get the stickers, feel in love with the game since.

P: Many long-time Line Rangers players have gotten tired of the game lately. Do you feel this way? Or do you think you will feel this way in the next few months?
C: My heavy paying Line Rangers friends and I got so disappointed by the latest event of Limited Cony Yaris. We spent so much on it because of the first launch stat, but it's been adjusted to more than half less efficient within one night. So if Line Rangers keep doing this, a lot of players will quit soon and so will I.

P: What other games do you like to play?
C: Now I'm starting to play Line Stage, but not as addicted as Line Rangers.

PThe game has a ranger who has the same name as you. Do you like the splash ranger, Clara? Who is your favorite Ranger?
C: 555 That's funny, I wish Clara ranger would be one of those Limited ones. Of course I like splash rangers but it doesn't work much in pvp.

PWho is your favorite LINE character? Why?
C: I can't really tell which one is my favorite LINE character. I love all of them, especially the funny ones.

PHow did you first decide to try to win the weekly team battle competition? What was your inspiration?
C: Frankly speaking, I only won the battle because of my Siam. team, mostly because Siam.aa (he is the Siam team Mentor), Siam.Ark( he is my line rangers mentor), Siam.อ้น, Siam.Therd and Siam.Chong. We play as a team and help each other.

PDid you need to do any preparation before the competition began?
C: I need to prepare at least 2000 rubies in advance. I can't waste time to recharge the rubies during the battle. And I need to have lots of rest before the battle week begins.

PWhich rangers did you like to use on your team? Any special reasons why you chose those rangers?
C: I use Erica, Cony Kinnara, Dumpy, Mully , Brown MuayThai. In pvp the attack rangers (Dumpy & Mully) are the most effective rangers. They help me finish the game fast. I also need a splasher to hit the tower so I choose Erica, a long-range splasher and Cony Kinnara melee splasher. Of all the rangers I think Brown MuayThai is one of the best ranger (for now) because of his fast cd, speed type, almost 4 million HP and good attack, too, for only 640 minerals.

PIt seems like each week, the number of points required to get first place is gets higher and higher. How many points did you need to get to win first place last week?
C: The number of points required to get first place is gets higher and higher think it's a nature of competition. My last week points for 1st rank was 31,939.


PHow does it feel to win first place? Do you think you will try to win first place again? 
C: To win the first place takes a lot of time, energy, strategy, and rubies. I couldn't do it without my Siam friends. Last two weeks, I got 3rd place with my Siam friends' help, too. I'm not sure if I can have that much energy and time again.


PFrom the point of view of everyone else, it looks like as soon as the weekly points reset, the competition rockets away nonstop. Is is true that nonstop playing is required to win? How much did last week's competition impact your daily life? 
C: It's not really non-stop playing but you need to know when to play and how long you need to play at a time. It could be 18 hours straight or it could be only 1 hour at a time. It is up to many things like your rank, other's score, score gap, etc.

PWas it exciting and cutthroat for 7 days straight or did you feel like you have time to do some other things?
C: Yes it was fun and exciting. If you are playing for top 5, time is the thing you need to sacrifice. Also the rubies.

PYou did not get to the first place position at the beginning. Was this a strategy, to save some time and rubies in the first couple of days until the ranking settle down? 
C: I just didn't have time to play at the beginning of the week. But it's easier to get a lot of points from below.

PCan you reveal to us approximately how many rubies you needed to keep at the top of the game? 
C: Well! It's different on each week, depend on lots of things. If you over-prepare special feathers then you will spend a lot more rubies. Last week I spent around 2500 rubies.

PIn the last several weeks, I have noticed that the Siam team and other Line Rangers teams have "stacked" the top ranks together. It created point gaps where the team players all have a much higher score than the next individual rank below them. This strategy is used to block others from gaining enough points to get to the top ranks, is this correct? Can you explain the point gap strategy, and how it began? 
C: We did not intended to block others from gaining the point (there's no such a thing as blocking others to gain enough points to get to the top rank, they can get to that amount of points in time), but to create a gap is just to give us some time to rest.
But you can only make that gap when you get to top rank. But to get to top rank is the most important thing. It takes time energy and a lot of strategies.

PIs it harder to fight up to first place, or is it harder to remain in first place? How tough is the competition when you are at the top on the last day before reset?
C: The last day wasn't so difficult, only monitoring needed, but the 6 days before that we hardly sleep and eat, we spent almost all of our time on pvp (4 days and 4 nights continuously if I'm not mistaken).

PDid you have much assistance and support from the Siam team during last week's competition? Can you describe what it is like to be on a Line Rangers team?
C: As I've mentioned before, I will not be able to be 1st rank if I not in Siam team. We are always supporting each other. Siam.aa (our team mentor) always shares video clip of how to win the battle. Siam.อ้น Siam.Chong also share the video clips on Endless Mode, too.
My line rangers mentor Siam.Ark always teaches me how to play and how to use all items. All of us 21 members in Siam team are so nice Siam.aa ,Siam.Ark Badshit ,Siam.#^.^#ครุคริ , Siam.Ball, Siam.THErd , Siam.Chong, Siam.palmyXFreak, Siam.Kurt of BKK, Siam.joEcnx, Siam.อ้น, we always support each other (even though some of us did not use "Siam" in front of their name but they are one of us like Cindy , Totoro ,Naratah , Wachara , Maggy , P'Nhong , DDดีดี , Oat and  หมอชนบท ) .

PDo you have team strategies that you cannot reveal to the public? If yes, you can just say yes, you don't have to tell me what it is :)
C: Yes we have some strategy that we would like to keep it between us, and also some rules, too, like no cheats. I think every team has it.

PIf you could have one new feature or change to the game, what would it be? 
C: If I could wish for the new feature, exchange rangers from one players to another may be, to reduce our expense in  Gacha, don't you agree? Or maybe Line Rangers can make new extra power feature like Brown combo team or Cony combo team would put a lot more challenge in the game.

PIs there anything else you would like to share with the Line Rangers & Friends blog audience?
C: Line Rangers is a great game, nice community though, but things are changing. Too many new rangers players had to spend more rubies to mastered new rangers. But things are getting better when the Erica's set comes, a lot easier to get new rangers mastered.
The turning points would be Cony Yaris, it is limited line ranger should think it through before releasing it, not release it and then adjust it after one whole night ( just like you release a ranger that so much like a dragon but when you get hold of it , it's just a simple dog with a dragon skin).  I felt like I've been cheated.

C: Thank you so much Panic, for this interview. It's an honor to be interview by the very famous blogger Panic. Thank you so much again for interviewing me. It's always been my dreams to be in one of your articles.
PThanks very much for doing the interview, Clara. I really appreciate that you took the time to share your experience with the Line Rangers community. 

So there you have it! I got some insight on some things about the weekly competition and how intense it can get at various points in the week. In addition, it is quite obvious to those heading into battle with their eyes on the top prize that it is not "worth it" in rubies, because they know they will have to spend at least 2000 rubies on special feathers alone and they will only get a maximum of 1000 rubies as a prize. I get the feeling that the experience of the competitive arena of Team Battle is worth more than the reward. When was the last time you played a game and didn't eat or sleep for 4 days in the heat of it? :)

I am also reminded that even though this game hasn't turned into all we hoped it to be, it has brought a lot of people together in ways that no one ever imagined. The team/clan companionship that has developed is remarkable. Below is a roster list of 2 other famously popular teams in the Line Rangers community. No doubt you have seen some of these players' work on YouTube and elsewhere.


The feeling of gamer burnout is not just for semi-casual players who have grown disappointed at the game. It apparently goes all the way up to the hard core top tiers of competitors as well. Nevertheless, there are still fun aspects to the game -- if you are willing to overlook some of the more frustrating aspects in order to trudge on and save Sally. Many, many people still play Line Rangers with varying degrees of passion. I have stopped spending cash on the game, but I still pick it up and play every now and then. I still look forward to the challenge of new stages. In fact, I was just looking at the calendar... it has been over a month since the Ravine of Death was released. Granted, I've decided since its release to take the slow, casual route through it and I am still working on stage 144, but, I do wonder why it is taking so long to release new stages. Is LINE brewing up something else in the background or are they just taking their sweet time because of the number of new rangers they scheduled to release this month?

Anyway, I hope that you enjoyed reading the interview as much as I enjoyed doing it. Stay fresh, friends.

26 comments:

  1. So the price to get top is not even close to the amount of time and money you have to spend on the game. Ridiculous. The game is indeed going stale, even if they release new stages I hope it's something new and creative and not just different looking monsters with more HP and damage, there are so many things that could be improved. How about enemy spawning more than 1 house, and letting them use different effects (like we have ghost and brown statue). They definitely need to review the stars of the rangers, many of the old 5 stars are actually on par with 3-4 stars now.

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  2. excellent post! this information was very much needed. props to those hardcore enough to get in the top 50

    ps - panic what is the highest you have ranked in pvp?

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    1. Oh, not very high in the grand scheme of things. I don't remember for sure and it was a long time ago, when it was easier, I ranked in the top 500. I have not competed heavily in team battle in many weeks because as we can see, it has very quickly gotten super difficult.

      I am glad readers are enjoying the interview. After blogging about a rather repetitive game for months, it's challenging to come up with fresh ideas. I am happy to hear the positive response.

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  3. wish she shared some tips or strategy, though when your a free player playing against an all mastered team of OP rangers there really is no strategy to help you :P

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  4. One of their secret strategy once they hit the top spots - they only place 1 weak ranger in the team. So the player who is currently playing will just steam role these 1 ranger teams. Once that is done that player will swap all of his Rangers for 1 weak ranger then it's another player turn to steam role all this 1 ranger teams. So they gain points quickly and efficiently making the gap of the top team and the rest to widen. And that is the secret.

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    1. that actually makes sense now since I noticed they do put only one ranger sometimes.

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  5. Congrats Clara! (and also to her other Siam teamates who have also hit global ONE)

    Such dedication is needed to pvp to just the top 10 ranks. Most importantly the Siam team wins by following rules and playing fairly without cheats (ie. hack software).

    But the best prize besides the title of global no.1 is knowing that all your fellow teamates worked alongside to help you achieve your goal. Reaching the pedestal is victorious but knowing you have great friends is the true prize!

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  6. Thanks for that interview Panic & Clara. I feel exhausted thinking about the effort required to get No 1. Considering all the effort needed, they should make some kind of a hall of fame within the game that lists last weeks top 3 players. That way the glory can last longer hehe

    In regards to the point mentioned about teams with similar points sticking close together within the very high ranks of PvP.... Another reason this is important is because if u don't have anybody close to you on the ranking ladder your going to be battling people way less points than you all the time, and hence... You'll be getting hardly any points per battle. It will be counter productive to reach the top on your own. Basically it's critical to have several players with similar points ranking along side you. Otherwise you'll be only getting 6 points or so per battle.

    Also in regards to what Line did to Driver Cony after they released her. Nerfing her stats! That is criminal IMHO and can't be reffered to anything else other than a big fat SCAM. It's a form of theft. Advertising a ranger with certain stats and then changing those stats after numerous purchases... Screw you Line. I'm glad I haven't spent One Cent on this game. And it's not the first time they have done that. I feel sorry for people who spend $$$$ on rangers and then the ranger gets nerfed not long after.

    And before any LINE NAVER ZEALOTS start defending them and calling me a "whiner"... Please guys get your heads out of your sorry asses.

    @Clara you know I already congratulated you before *winks* but CONGRATS again:) I'm glad u reached your goal. Now treat yourself to a holiday hehe nice to hear from you Clara:)

    Edit: I had to repost this because there isn't an edit function. Fixed a few typos..

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    1. what were the stats for driver cony before and after? as i didn't got it i didn't realize

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    2. Yes I would like to know the original yaris cony's stats please *_*

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  7. I can figure out how they got top rankers weekly, maybe the strategy will be:

    + Each Person will start in order as soon as new week Pvp Start: 5min/ person for Ex.

    + After a time almost of player in that group would be in top 20 rankers, all that guys always keep the strongest rangers in their team to block others got winning point.

    + At position 2 and 3rd, they will change all rangers in their team to low class to help the 1st farming point.

    My 2 cents.

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  8. Its almost october so any news about the new rangers??, what happenned Panicbutton? you are not so active as before :'(

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    1. Have mostly not been playing Rangers anymore. Plus there's not much interesting to write about lately.

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  9. In the PvP, I'm seeing a new brown ranger. I wonder if that is a new one? But there wasn't any notice about it. The brown is black in color. Anyone has it/seen it yet?

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    1. It's mach Brown or something like that. Japan region release. Rest of us don't even know of who or what he is. Line is making a huge mistake alienating players like this. Global PvP ladder makes it so everything is transparent - just so silly to think we wouldn't notice!

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    2. I currently live in Japan and love Line Rangers. Line showed several commercials in Japan only to promote Line Rangers and part of the promotion are two rangers, Mach Brown and Mach Moon. Mach Brown is like Hip-Hop Brown but much stronger and faster, and Mach Moon is like a weak Macho Moon.

      They are acquired by reaching Level 3 (Mach Moon) and Level 10 (Mach Brown). As part of this promotion, players in Japan who can defeat Level 144 before October 7th are eligible to receive a Line Rangers action figure.

      Mach Brown is good! Still doesn't top Muay Thai Brown though.

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    3. I see! But Mach Brown didn't seem very good... It got killed just after a few blows

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  10. Woah! The big dude is like an OP MT Brown (MT Brown is already OP to begin with). Thanks for the share.

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  11. Cony again? That karate dude is fast, sigh no new content just new rangers again..

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  12. After 3 months playing this game, I have something for the newbies:

    + Dont spend any penny on this game: every month they release new rangers that make the before purchased rangers become shit. Except u r son of Bill Gate to mastering all rangers.

    + Dont use any ruby in single premium gacha: even at double chance event, u still can get shits.

    P/S: Everymonth they release 4 rangers, if one of them could be obtained from boss stage event is better, and that free ranger must be useful to help player pass the current releasing stages in campaign mode.

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    1. that is untrue not shit just sometimes weaker but still useable.

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    2. anon we playing the same game here?

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  13. omg i just realized i'm friends with her! if you're reading this, hi clara! :D

    anyway, glad to see someone else thinks about the ranger trading system. i'd love to have that too because i'm pretty sure many players most probably have those extra rangers they have no actual use for because they already have the mastered one while they're still looking for other rangers to master. and someone's extra could be another's treasure. i hope line rangers team would look into that feature.

    great interview btw panic, thanks for sharing! i always wondered how big of a commitment is needed to get to the top pvp ranking. with this now i have a much clearer picture. won't be aiming for #1 any time soon though, i'd be happy enough to land somewhere in between #2000 - #5000. haha.

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  14. honestly fuck double chance it's just a myth, like, i went for 5+1 and my best ranger was masked moon smh i wanted to punch the wall but the wall is made of concrete so i didn't

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    1. +1

      5+1 gacha: 3 times 3 stars (Totti, Vlad, Pew) + 3 times 4 star (Alex, Macho moon, Rapper Boss)

      Awch.

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