[Post updated as of July 1]
New rangers are here, and by now surely many players have seen them in action in one place or another. I don't have them all personally, so I'll speak to what I can and try to supplement info from other sources. Susu is limited to the next two weeks only, so get him while you can.
Note: The analysis of the new rangers below are valid as of July 2, 2014.
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| Range comparison between Prince James & Dancer King Boss |
Prince James is the new reigning champion of long range. He out-ranges Dancer King Boss by a smidge. There are definite pros to Prince over DKB: At master level, Prince's atk/hp is superior (176409/299376 vs. 139812/224532). But that is where the advantage ends. DKB's unmastered cooldown is only 7 seconds whereas Prince's twice that at 14 seconds. DKB's attack/move stats are both faster than Prince's. DKB is cheaper to deploy at every level. Prince's stats come out to 220.5 damage per mineral; DKB's is 218.5 damage per mineral -- extremely close after the buff to DKB on July 2. But when you factor in the possibility of deploying twice as many DKB in the same amount of time (provided that you are funneling all minerals into prioritizing DKB/Prince deployment), DKB is still a very attractive ranger. The hp difference between a master Prince and a master DKB is only 74844 in favor of Prince, which these days is around 1 extra hit from your typical enemy so health-wise I see them as nearly equal.
In my opinion, Prince vs. DKB is situational. If you can afford to deploy only one attacker every 14 seconds that moves slow-ish, then by all means, go for the higher output Prince. If you need more damage fast to take advantage of some timing opportunity, I think DKB may suit your needs more. Don't get me wrong, though. The amount of damage that Prince James is capable of is insane. Just adjust your team accordingly to account for his long cooldown.
Luis... is such an odd fellow. He's a boy who appears to be naked, hiding in a bush, but he's a jumping ninja...Ok, points for originality. He's melee range (though pretty far back as far as melee goes) and he packs a serious punch with his apples but with 1.4 million HP, so I will compare him to Dwight. Luis is not quite suited for solo tanking and he doesn't really do as much damage as Dwight per deployment. His standard cooldown is slightly shorter, and he's a good deal cheaper. It's pretty close, but Luis is still the better bang for your buck in terms of damage. If you want to compare their tankability (yeah, I made a word up, so sue me!), Luis and Dwight are actually very similar. But Luis will get to the front line faster, which may be more valuable in a pinch. Would I use him as a main tanking ranger? I personally have my reservations, especially since his melee range leaves so much space for the enemy to inch forward. I'm not sure how I really feel about Luis yet. Probably need some more time to find a good scenario to use him.
| Master level stats ► | Cost | Dmg/Mineral | HP/Mineral | Attack Speed | Move Speed | CD |
| Luis | 520 | 309 | 2715 | Slow | Normal | 4 |
| Dwight | 980 | 250 | 2733 | Fast | Slow | 6 |
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| Witch and Lucifer are stacked almost on top of each other (white arrow). BCCony is further back (pink arrow) |
| Master level stats ► | Cost | Dmg/Mineral | HP/Mineral | Attack Speed | Move Speed | CD |
| Witch Cony | 170 | 75.2 | 370 | Slow | Very Fast | 2 |
| Lucifer Cony | 210 | 166.8 | 1746 | Slow | Very Fast | 2 |
| Best Couple Cony | 240 | 173.9 | 868 | Normal | Very Fast | 2 |
- BCCony is longer range than both Witch and Lucifer
- BCCony moves slightly faster than both Witch and Lucifer
- Cooldown is the same for BC, Witch, and Lucifer Cony
By any logical reasoning, BCCony should be 5 stars when stacked up against her counterparts, but oh well.
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| Hitman range compared to Ola Brown, SoCo, KSM |
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| Hitman range compared to Shu, Opera James, KSM, Abdula |
| Master level stats ► | Cost | Dmg/Mineral | HP/Mineral | Attack Speed | Move Speed | CD |
| KSM | 890 | 145.5 | 706.4 | Very Slow | Very Slow | 7 |
| Abdula | 760 | 91.7 | 502.4 | Normal | Normal | 5 |
| Hitman | 670 | 182.2 | 774.5 | Very Fast | Slow | 5 |
So here we can clearly see why Hitman is the new flavor of the month. Note that he does have a slightly lower DPS than KSM (122064 vs. 129499), but proportional to mineral cost Hitman actually pulls ahead in cost efficiency and time efficiency. Hitman also has slightly better range than both Abdula and KSM.
I do not have Best Couple Brown nor Susu so if you guys want to give some in-game insight on how these two play, go right ahead and share that. I'm going to just speak briefly about them based on what I know.
Initially from the numbers, it looks like Best Couple Brown bests the older 4 stars health rangers, but he's otherwise a pretty standard Brown health ranger we know and expect. Nothing spectacular either way, but if you don't have Hip-Hop Brown (everyone's favorite hybrid tank at the current time), mastered BCBrown is in fact better than mastered free ranger Xan in every way except for move speed. Thunder Brown was updated on July 3 to over 1 million HP at master level so he is the meatiest Brown ranger now. When considering tanking units, attack isn't quite as important as their health, move speed, and cooldown time, and in that respect, both BCBrown performs decently for a 4-star ranger. So, he's something to consider if you're shopping for a new tank.
| Master level stats ► | Cost | Dmg/Mineral | HP/Mineral | Attack Speed | Move Speed | CD |
| Hip Hop Brown | 210 | 114 | 2376 | Normal | Very Fast | 2 |
| General Brown | 280 | 130 | 1305 | Normal | Normal | 2.5 |
| Macho Moon | 330 | 26 | 1229 | Very Fast | Fast | 2.5 |
| Thunder Brown | 370 | 40 | 2882 | Fast | Slow | 2.5 |
| Best Couple Brown | 430 | 46 | 1848 | Very Fast | Normal | 3 |
| Xan | 500 | 31 | 1295 | Slow | Very Fast | 4 |
Susu is absolutely phenomenal because of his astonishingly high damage (outperforming KSM) and health for melee range splash but his painfully long standard cooldown of 28 seconds (!!!) is going to mean you have to plan your deployment of other rangers around when he comes off cooldown. Yeah, sure he costs a lot (1140 at master level) but in 28 seconds (14s if he is mastered) you ought to be able to raise enough funds. He books it to the front line pretty quick too, so he can spring into action in a desirable amount of time.
Good luck to everyone on your Gachas if you are trying your luck.
Footnote: Information on rangers I don't have in my possession supplemented by AppGuru and Furusawa Tokidoki Cacao Blog.
Wow congrats panic for getting all the new rangers!
ReplyDelete300 rubies and I got cony, hitman, luis and 2 Cherinas :D, at first i feel disappointed because Cherina's attack range is the same as jessica... but then... after playing for a while, i think she's not bad because she's easily to spam and very cheap (not to mention she is also a splash ranger)...
But really?? 1000 mineral for Susu?? I just dont know is he worth it? I have 3 bernard and 2 dwight, but I didn't use them much due to the cost of the mineral..
I didn't even get a chance to play yet. Some of the pics are mine, some aren't mine lol. I haven't had time yet! But I will say this, susu seems very worth it. High cost but over 4 million hp at level 80 so he can tank AND he does splash. Incredibly useful.
DeleteAre you get the 300 ruby from tge event in indonesia region?
DeleteThe 1000 mineral is definitely worth it for Susu. More health than Bernard, high attack, and more importantly splash attack. The only knock on it is the very, very long recharge time.
DeleteIc... then that means I am going to try my luck again to get Susu.. (and more Hitman/Cherina please!! xD), and for the rubies, I bought them.
DeleteThanks!
I didn't get 300 rubies for Indonesia Region. And apparently others didn't get it either, any explanation?
ReplyDeleteWell the anon above surely did.
DeleteI wish I get 300 rubies right when a 5-star double chance happens...
Yea im from indonesia region too I playe 60 stage during this even but I dont get "single " ruby, why please help us!?
DeleteHi i'm the anon above, I didn't get 300 rubies, I bought them and play 3*100 Gacha :D
DeleteJust check again according to line rangers official some ruby will be deployed a bit late. Around 5pm GMT +9 which is half an hour ago.. Enjoy
DeleteSusu cherina and hitman are all very good. Susu has decent speed and amazing hps. Hitman is a faster ksm. Cherina has good melee splash dps but could taken down fast against many ranged splash dps. Very strong set. Makes previous rangers pale in comparison.
ReplyDeleteGosh the new rangers are always more powerful than the last. Just look at their stats here guys: http://farch.hotcom-cafe.com/wordpress/line_renja_data01.html
ReplyDeleteSeems like DKB has been dethroned by Prince James in every ways except the speeds.
Waiting for your thoughts on these very overpowered toons, Panic.
Obviously the new ones will be stronger than the old ones, otherwise the game cannot suck money from us.
DeleteDear panicbutton,
ReplyDeleteThere has been a delay in the Indonesian rubies event. They shall receive their rubies delayed. We have decided to inform you, and you alone, of this. Weird, right? Please inform all the Indonesians involved in the event for us. Please pick a date of your choosing to tell them of the ETA of said rubies.
Much appreciated,
Line Corp
Umm I dont get it I still wait for it
Deletedear Nicholas Rijako, please learn to differentiate sarcasm.
DeleteBabyrabbits is trying to tell everyone from Indonesia to be patient. We are all clueless. No one in the world, not even Dr. Mephisto, know when Indonesian players will receive the promised stones.
If you don't know, why would Panic know? She don't even live in Indonesia, hence she wouldn't get the splash message and notice.
Thanks rio & babyrabbits. Yeah, guys, I have no idea when LINE will give you the rubies. I think you will get them soon, but they must be really busy already with the release of the new rangers. I'm sure you'll get them, it's just a matter of time. You're not alone, apparently no one in the Indonesian event got them yet. I live in the US region, we'll probably never get a 300 ruby event. So count yourself lucky that you'll get them eventually.
DeletePanic is a girl?
Delete>melts<
>hyperventilates<
El oh El!
DeleteI just got my 300 rubies 10 mins ago on 1 account but not my other. So i guess its going out in phases?
Deleteaw i spent all of my 340 rubies and didn't get any of the new rangers.
ReplyDeleteSpent a 100 rubies got nothing, not even old 5 stars.
ReplyDeleteSince LINE Corp people are aware of this website, I might as well say this one and for all, and later over at my blog as well. Here's my thought after playing the game for so long and getting so many useless rangers from gacha. As the pool of rangers get largerand larger and this the chances of obtaining the same ranger for upgrade more and more difficult, the 5+1 gacha machine should remove level 3 rangers at least during event period of not permanently removed. I mean, look, they are practically useless even for beginners of the game now and they are just here to frustrate the players every time. 4 star rangers are now the least of the wanted bunch. If you want to earn players' money, you have got to do it with a little incentive than keep increasing the size of the character pool now.
ReplyDeleteThere's three types of people: ones who don't spend money at all, one who spends little money due to limited budget, and one who is addicted. They aren't exactly trying to appeal to the first two but rather the last one because that's where most of the money is. Having a ton of crap rangers there means that the addicts must spend more to get what they want while feeling satisfied that the people who don't spend money can't have them. If they made the chances of getting a good ranger very high then what incentives would the addicts have to spend more money? The people who spent a little would be satisfied and wouldn't spend more, and the people who don't spend money could save up rubies over time and get the rangers they want easier.
DeleteThey have experts who think on a different level. They know what they are doing to maximize their profits, and they have the numbers, but that doesn't always mean players will be happy or agree.
@Anonymous Well said, friend.
DeleteAs someone working in the game industry i totally agree. Lots of game developers focus on ''whales'', players who are addicted to the game and are willing to spend large amounts of money to become the best in the game. The game is just free, because people don't want to play or even try out the game if they have to pay for it. To make it fair for the paying players, it is harder for players who play for free.
DeleteIt is possible for a free player to become good, but luck and time is needed. For a free player to be competitive with a paying player, he will need to play the game for 1 year. But i must say that this game is fun and entertaining for free and paying players and frankly, free players don't have the right to complain. This is how the mobile games industry works now. Back in the days, i had to pay 50-100 usd for a game.
"If you expect the world to be fair with you because you are fair, you're fooling yourself. That's like expecting the lion not to eat you because you didn't eat him."
DeleteI'm the one who don't want to spend money on games and still haven't got any new rangers (from KSM, DKB to now). Line makes rules, and gamers who wanna play Line Ranger must obey the rules. If free members think the game is unfair on gacha-ing, they have the right to quit and never play Line Rangers again. This is the first rule of Line.
Thank Delano and Anonymous for your info of those groups. I'm thankful to Panic who dedicate himself to many value articles.
Thanks for the expert input, Delano. As bleak as it might sound for the free playership, your explanation sounds reasonable. They've made the game in single player mode quite fair for free players in that you can definitely win if you put in the time to grind. If you want to perform at the top of the charts you will need to pay. If free players and paying players performed the same, then why bother paying, right?
DeleteI think the people most disgruntled about this situation are those who pay "some" money, which is still money that matters, but they don't get the results that they want. The ones out there with maxed new Rangers the first day: those are the big "whales". These are people throwing down hundreds of dollars every time new Rangers come out. And your $20 means very little compared to the players spending $400 or $800 every month, unfortunately. Business is business. If they lose yours, they still make hundreds off someone else in the high roller category of players.
Seems like many are happy with the current situation, then so be it. That being said, there is always rights for anyone to voice out their opinions, whether they are players playing the game free or paid. If opinions aren't valuable to LINE, then why would like response to those opinions from the Taiwan community? Don't you know many of the current changes and updates are because of the work of that group?
DeleteAs someone who is once in the field and knows how gaming industry works, I'll say, don't forget, free players may not be paying for the game themselves, but they are excellent word-of-mouth advertising agents, selling the game to those who might be "whales", so if free players are quitting, they stop advertising, or they might speak bad of the game. Heard of "Word of mouth can be terrible advertising?" Rule of LINE games? Maybe, but rules keep changing, especially for a good company, they listen, improve and response.
Imagine a gaming world where no one speaks out, or companies don't care about players' opinions, the results is the FIFA series. If you want to know how poor this game is, go search on YouTube.
Line has been quite generous too i think. Since the game was released, until now, players probably already received 1000-1300 free rubies. And we still receive 60 free rubies every week. So i just suggest players to be wise and only use them during double % cacha events and only use the 100 ruby cacha for better odds.
DeleteLine uses the 300 free ruby promo in Asian regions, because Line focuses on the Asian markets for now. Most Asians might not spend on the Ranger game, but they will use the Line messenger more and that will also transfer in to profit. My guess is that they will do the same in Western markets later too, for user acquisition.
And if Line follows the trend you can find in other collection games, they might do some 5 star cacha only events, but for a higher price. But it will always be a gamble. Because selling better odds than better rangers directly is more profitable. Maybe later you can directly buy rangers with rubies, because that will appeal more to the people who want to spend just $20. then again, they might introduce 6 star rangers or 7-rangers of the same kind combinations too for the big payers, to create some distance again. :p
Nobody said voicing opinions is bad. There's at least 2 sides to every story. I would love for Line to read opposing opinions, and in fact, I would love for Line to read all of the opinions so they can more accurately take the temperature of their playership. If this is the sounding board, then go for it. But there'll always be people who fall on different sides and I think so far everyone's intelligently and constructively communicated their opinions.
DeleteCould Line make the Gacha system more favorable to players? Yes, absolutely. Will they crunch a whole bunch of numbers to see if it works out in their favor? Of course. Can they rehash it in some way that gives people what they want and still profit a lot? Probably, and they might do it one day. There's pros and cons to every move they make. I think if anything, we can all agree that every single change they've made to the game has made some group of players happier and at the same time made some group of players grumpier. Can't win them all, all the time.
Sure locky, you are right.
DeleteThey listen to the Taiwan community, but the game is still the game today you seem to have some problems with. The game developers need to make a living too. You can't expect them to give you the full game experience for free and them living on the streets for it. No, if you want to get the full experience, you will need to invest. And if you like the game, you will invest. If you don't like it that much, you won't invest. Don't forget they don't just sell Line Rangers, but they also sell Line and their characters. They create fans and users. Fans willing to pay for it. Unlike FIFA, where players pay out of addiction or frustration, Line players pay because they are fans of their franchise.
I personally like to make quality games for a quality prices, instead of free games where players pay out of frustration and addiction. But Line Rangers is more and even for free, can be a quality game. The problem is you are a gamer and therefor competitive. But you need to pay to become competitive. You make an estimate and you count that if you want to have the best of the game, you might need to spend $1000,- for a silly game. This might be not worth it and the way players are driven to spend can be called unethical, but expecting developers to work for free is also unethical.
Yes free players are needed, but there needs to be a clear line between payers and non-payers, because developers really don't want to lose the payers. Developers will cater the non-payers, but they will always stay steps behind.
Anyways, enough discussion for me :P
To offer a hopefully reasonable but potentially volatile observation:
DeleteNo matter what your take on "pay to win" style gaming, one thing is fairly clear here. Even if you sink thousands into LINE Rangers, you're no closer to "owning" the game - the feather mechanic alone proves that. It's a profit-making mechanism first, game second. And from an ethical point of view, I think it's only fair to admit that those who spend big are probably caught in the addiction cycle and it would be healthier if they weren't.
Now the game itself is set up so that those of us who can resist the Gacha-lure can play it and win it, or at the very least enjoy all the features. Plenty of LINE games, from LINE Play to Wind Runner, let you pay to speed your progress. That all being said, LINE Rangers seems especially to be squeezing those vulnerable addicted players, the so-called "whales". Rangers are being obsoleted every month, it seems, and Battle Made provides an endless roulette with the promise of rubies - but one needs, of course, to be competitive to get out of the bottom tiers (which tempts one to buy rubies), and will need to play continually to maintain their rank (which tempts one to buy feathers.) Most of us won't be tempted - it's just a game! - but for some, it's not so easy.
I have no personal complaints about LINE Ranger as a fun source of casual gaming. I like that the updates are frequent. But I do worry that the exploitation factor, when it comes to vulnerable players, is becoming especially high in this game. It's their money; it's their choice; but I hope there's less high-pressure stuff in the future (one month to get Ole Brown! Two weeks to get Susu!) and that the flow of new content is directed a little more toward new stages, rather than elite new rangers.
Ok, i will highjack this thread once more. :p
Delete@sophie. I completely agree with you. Sadly this is today's marketing of mobile games. Sadly, it is going in to this direction, because people don't want to pay up front and only try out free games and that is why commercial game developers are using this method. Competitive gaming is addictive and nowadays mobile games are designed so that people will spend to become better, mostly out of frustration.
People who are fan of the game, will keep on playing, spending or not spending. People who play the game, because it is a game and dont want to spend a dime, will likely drop out after months of playing. People who are addicted to it, will stay and spend out of frustration with this system.
So i am working on this for now and any opinions are welcome. You can download the game for free. But i do want to make profit out of every user. -Let's say there are lots of standard characters like Line Rangers and some extra good Rangers.
-Let's say 100 gems is equivalent to 1 USD.
-There is no time limit and can play as long as you want. -The game is good ofcourse.
-Players can earn gems by playing. Let's say 10 minutes is 2 gems.
I have a target to make 12 usd for every player atleast. So how will i do that? like this:
- for 300 gems you can buy access to a superspecial character (level, extras)
-for every 10 minutes you play, you will see 0.02 usd worth of advertisements in the game. in return players get 2 gems.
-When players have earned 1200 gems, may it be by playing or buying gems, the player will get an achievement. And that achievement will remove all advertisements.
If a game is multiplayer and therefor has continous server and updating costs, just raise the demand of that achievement or introduce permanent access to slightly better characters for usd only. If the game has a fanbase, introduce new content for gems.
Perhaps this is more ethical.
@Line. It would be wise that if Line does follow this blog, the give a coupon for free gems for all the readers of panicbutton's blog. This show's appreciation to what panicbutton does for their community and will satisfy the players. just my 5 cents :p
Delano, nice model breakdown. Interesting ideas. If someone out there is reading, I hope it's giving them food for thought.
DeleteAnd the coupon... well, wouldn't that be something? :D They did put a "coupon " feature in, though I haven't seen it in action yet. ;)
Delano, that is a good idea. Now, there are many new rangers and it is unlimited by introducing new rangers time after time.
DeleteLine could create "a market" - which users can buy the rangers they want or they need to upgrade max level. To be intrigued and create more opportunities for both pay-users and non-pay-users, Line creates gems (as you mentioned above, Delano) - all can earn gems; ones who wanna buy the strongest rangers with high cost will spend money to buy more gems, and non-pay-users need to wait until they get enough free gems if they don't wanna pay.
It is an effective profit making strategy to offer certain rangers for only a limited time. Nothing wrong with LINE wanting to make money. Hoping to get Susu during the event, I actually spend money (rarely) for rubies. None of my roll yield Susu, though I did obtained other rangers (good and bad ones), the thought of buying rubies again cross my mind. Upon reflection, I can see this, Gacha, being addictive.
DeleteSome of the post here are interesting read and insightful. My conclusion after reading is either be a whale or be a free player. Middle spender will still not be able to compete with whales, and yet get frustrated with bad Gacha roll after spending money.
I do hope LINE will release new area, get back to saving sally, instead of just releasing more are more rangers.
I am reverting back to "free" player mode and be contented, though technically I am not one now ("-")
And, those rangers weer can get from completing stages, should not even appear in the 5+1 gacha. You either make 5+1 gacha more special by charging a higher number of rubies, say 110 by shrinking the pool, otherwise, how much different is 5 gacha and 5+1 gacha?
ReplyDeleteNeed to be smarter and do better than what you are doing now to earn big money, you know?
Yea I agree, there are so many rangers now that even a good chunk of the 4 and 5 star rangers are useless. What good is Warrior Jessica or Xan or Lia compared to what's out now? The focus has shifted entirely on PvP which is ok for now but really, getting guys like Lucas and Dane is almost an insult now.
Deletedoes the taiwan guy make another survey this time around?
ReplyDeleteYes, sir! I just posted a new link to it on the latest posting. I'm back online for a little while. I have been terribly busy these last few days. Still haven't had much of a chance to play the new rangers yet. :(
Deletehttp://linerangers.blogspot.com/2014/06/help-line-ranger-friends-get-statistics_30.html
For all Indonesian players, a developer said on facebook that you will receive the rubies after 15:00, the 1th of July, so today. Be patient.
ReplyDeleteSome anonymous person here talked about using 300 rubies, but he never stated he was Indonesian or used the 300 rubies received from the event. So wait a little longer.
Thanks for the info, Delano
DeleteDid you notice? the game downloaded 20-ish new files! I wonder if you can make some magic and decipher what those files hide... :o
ReplyDeleteMostly cosmetic changes to the picture of the Gacha categories to reflect susu and Prince, etc. Apparently some updates to ladder ai as well but I don't know exactly what. Seems minor from what I can tell, but not positive.
DeleteAm not lucky on the gacha.. :(
ReplyDeleteto all my fellow indonesian friends,
ReplyDeletecheck all of your gift box now. I got my free 300 rubies :D
Joy! Glad you're getting your rewards now!
Deletegot Susu, Couple cony, Luis and four 5-star rangers from 300 free rubies,
Deleteno luck on ksm or prince tough,
Nice event indeed :)
Thanks Panic!
DeleteAnd thanks for all of your hard work on this blog :D
Alright gacha manchine, i'm gonna spin you soon....
Thank you for your kind words, Lord Raptor.
Deleteany idea if singaporean line already had their turn for the 300 ruby, panic? :)
ReplyDeleteFor Singapore i don't know. Every Line user that has a registered Indonesian sim (+62) connected to their Line, will fall under this Indonesian event. Singapore isn't a very interesting market for mobile games, so i guess that if they will do the event, it will be later.
DeleteSingapore got their 300 ruby last month
DeleteI'm from Singapore and I've been playing daily for months. Never heard anything about the 300 rubies event here. I only know Taiwan, HK, Thailand had theirs.
DeleteI'm from Argentina, and haven't heard anything about the 300 rubies :(
DeleteThey'd be really useful for me
I thought only HK/Macau, Thailand and Taiwan got the event. No idea if they will expand to other regions. Line does whatever they want, whenever they want lol
Delete300 rubies and no luck in getting susu, but I get all the best like ksm, dkb, dwight, dumpy, luis, cherina etc. It's more than enough :D
ReplyDeleteRolled the 20 ruby gacha two times this morning (Singapore time) and got my first Dancer King Boss:) and Prince James (Finally a new ranger on the gacha in the first day I rolled it) OK result, still can do it two more times tonight
ReplyDeleteHope to get Susu tonight, I don't mind his cool down, at least his hp is more than a million, my highest hp ranger currently is Luke, with 700000 over hp
ReplyDeleteCherina is really a good ranger. Have the same/similar speed of running speed and cooldown time compared to ranger speed (i compare her to my unmastered honey), yet splash hit like truck to the front line, and also low mineral cost. A very good option to push front line enemies
ReplyDeletegreetings from Malaysia..thanks for the blog info...very informative. tried my 100 ruby..but didnt get any of the new rangers.sad.. gotta slowly accumulate rubies again now lol
ReplyDeleteI got susu
ReplyDeletei got 2 susu so far.. now i am wondering if it is worth to throw another 50 bux to gamble for susu.. lol
ReplyDeleteA couple of insights:
ReplyDelete- Hitman - Abdula on steroids. Attacks once per second, and his attacks hit FAST. It's an incredibly minor point, but if a character's attack is still en route when that character dies, the attack vanishes and is nullified. I doubt this will ever happen to him (I've seen it happen to KSM a time or two). He has the same range as KSM. His biggest negative is a cooldown time that is at least 11 seconds. I might change my mind later, but for now, I REALLY like what he brings to the table.
- Cherina - Cooldown time: 3 seconds. Attacks once every 2.5 seconds.
- Prince James - FWIW, he attacks once every three seconds. 14 second cooldown confirmed.
Hi! First of all, i'd like to say that I absolutely love this blog, it's really useful :)
ReplyDeleteNow I would like if you, Panicbutton, and other players could advise me on which rangers should I choose for my team. So far I've got:
Sorcerer Cony, lvl 60
Ola Brown, lvl 60
Hip-hop Brown, lvl 60
Shu, lvl 70 (master)
Warrior Jessica, lvl 70 (master)
Fighter Moon, lvl 70 (master)
KSM, lvl 44 (just got him yesterday)
Sol, lvl 43 (should I level him up to 80??)
And Susu!!! lvl 28 (just got him minutes ago, and already loving him! lol)
I'm lvl 61, and I'm stuck in level 106 in the game.
I'd love to get some feedback on what to do, thanks to all!
Thanks Lucia.
DeleteFor 106, I'd go with Susu, Sorcerer, Hip Hop, Shu and either Warrior Jessica or KSM (if your KSM were higher, I'd go with KSM). The 2 riceball mini bosses at the start of 106 will make Ola Brown a waste of mineral and time frankly. Use Susu and Hip Hop at the start, and then get Susu out as possible, but Cony and Shu will apply the pain. KSM and Warrior Jessica will help splash down any airplane enemies that pop out. Alternatively if you don't think Susu is helping enough to warrant being on the team (because of his long cd), use both KSM and Warrior Jessica, or Warrior Jessica and Fighter Moon.
Thanks for your answer! I'll try and see if it works :)
DeleteI did it! I updated with useful thoughts about the new rangers!
ReplyDeleteThanks for your hardwork Panic :D
DeleteAs for Susu, because of his super mega long cooldown, I use Hiphop brown as second tanker, and it work pretty awesome in team battle :D
Had been reading your blog and found it useful and informative, thumbs up! I managed to save 200 rubies and tried my luck and I found out that honey is availabl.
DeleteAs I am trying hard battling special rangers using obtainable rangers, efforts seems futile lol. Especially when I see susu, he cuts through my defense effortlessly , reaches my fortress and destroys it. However it's still a highly addictive and enjoyable game, thanks to all your post .
I'D lightsupper
My thought on how the cacha works.
ReplyDeleteI used 500 rubies and got 16 5-stars out of it. Friends i know got similar results.
Most games that use a similar system like rare/super rare/ultra rare or 3/4/5 stars collectibles you have a % chance to get a 5 star collectible. So if you are lucky to get a 5 star card, then the system will draw a card out of the 5 star pool.
But with Line Rangers, the more collectibles, the better that chance.
So i think any Ranger, may it be 3, 4 or 5 star has the same kind of chance to be drawn. For example, before the update there were 40 rangers. So every ranger has a 2.5% chance to be drawn. After the update there are 50 rangers, so the chance is now 2% to get that same ranger. Because every update has more 4 and 5 star rangers and the 3 star rangers in the 3/4/5 pool are relatively getting smaller after every update. So bigger chance to get a 5 star ranger, but smaller chance to get a specific ranger.
Hope I get Susu soon, I don't want to use Luke as a health ranger anymore
ReplyDeleteGot susu but so far I hate the fact that he is melee
ReplyDeleteCherina is what is keeping me competitive in team battles. Fast attack/move speed combined with cheap cost means that a group of Cherinas can dish out significant amounts of damage. She clears out all the Hip-hop/Red Browns with ease, and mows down the front line with relative ease, especially if she has fire support from the back. Awesome ranger to have on the team.
ReplyDeletePrince James = Casanova
ReplyDeleteHey there panic, thx for all your hard work on compiling all the data for other players. Just spent 200 rubies and finally got a hip-hop brown and some old 4&5 star rangers, but sadly no new rangers for me. *sigh* Oh and I also noticed, you missed some rangers on your ranger list: dumpy, dwight, and ola brown. Please keep up the good work, your blog is really helpful for other players.
ReplyDeleteThanks, Anonymous.
DeleteI made some mistake when I was updating the list and I thought I used the right version when I added the new rangers. I guess that's when Dwight, Ola and Dumpy fell off the list. I'll add them back soon. Thanks for pointing it out.
My comment is not related to new rangers but well, comments are closed in the treasure area now so i will post here.
ReplyDeleteI recently finished the Castle in the sky area, anxious to get the 45 % bonus damage treasure. And well, it seems it is not exactly what I got. I compared my treasures to the ones you listed and it seems to me they changed the the effect of the last ones :
- Ancient Museum : Time Machine is now : Increase missile power. (again ?)
- Temple of Ice : Ice Skates are now : Increase ranger production rate ???
- Altar of Flame : Hermes Sandal is now : Increase allied units movement speed ???
- Castle in the sky : Flying Skateboard is now : Increase weapon recharge time ???
Maybe you know yet about this changes but I didn't find any info on your blog. I would love to have your opinion about this.
Only one other person ever reported their treasure for Castle in the sky was different, and this is the first time anyone has said so many of their Treasures are different than ours. Mine are still the same as always. Perhaps yours is bugged, or its some change for specific region? I haven't seen anyone else recently report this either. If the atk increase was gone, I'm sure players would be up in arms.
DeleteHi Greg - I was that only other person panic is referring to. When i finished casltle in the sky my treasure also said "Increase weapon recharge time". It eventually changed to "Increase ranger attack". Not sure but it might have been a regional glitch. I'm in Canada.
DeleteThank you for your answers. I am from France so well, I am not sure about the regional glitch hypothesis. I guess I will keep checking to see if anything change then.
DeleteHi Panic,
ReplyDeleteWhich ranger do you think is better? KSM or Susu? They are both very strong rangers and I need your opinion.
That's comparing apples to oranges. Susu and KSM's roles are different and depending on your team and your strategy as well as which mode you're playing, they each have their niche pros and cons. Susu is unlike any ranger we've had before, hard to compare him to anyone. Closest thing is maybe Charismatic Jessica but it's a long shot and Susu is multiple times better than her in various ways.
DeleteI think you should have both.
DeleteSusu is like combined bernard + dwight + charismatic jessica, but better.
Sad thing is I have spent 1200 rubies without any luck to get susu. Maybe it is not my luck to have him. I have given up to get susu :( I hope next month ranger would be better than susu :D
Hi, did you all noticed that all the ranger's hp or Dps has increased?
ReplyDeleteI think they changed something with the unit damage or unit hp. Matches seem to be like sudden death.
DeleteYeah, some ranger has slight change. Not significant tough.
DeleteI change my opinion, the pvp matches are pretty hard now to use tanker like bernard/dwight. They died significantly faster compared to yesterday (or is it just my feeling?)
DeleteCouldn't agree more.. or maybe it's because your rank is already high? mine is 4600.. and suddenly it feels so hard to win with my champion team lol (but that's odd.. because this morning/afternoon my champion team works just fine... now my cherry (70), susu (60) --> damn, if one died must wait a long time for another refill, so now I didn't use him much for PVP, hiphop (70) is so easy to dead T_T
DeleteBtw I spent 1100 ruby and i got 1 susu in my last spin, phew. You have to spin again bro!!!! Didn't get james anyway...
Yes, this morning my team works fine too, suddenly they died pretty fast (master bernard/dwight/ksm/thunderbrown). Is the master ranger being nerfed? Yeah. I change to other ranger that cost cheaper too, and they are better
DeleteEven those attack and splash rangers increased dps/decreased hp. My level 65 KSM seems to die from a shot from DKB
DeleteWhats going here ?
ReplyDeleteMy susu master are overwhelmed by lowbies ? Bernard died in a few seconds ?
Max masked moon cant even beat team consist 3 lowbies
Why spend if lowbies team can beat premium team
So it is not only my feeling.
ReplyDeleteMy mastered bernard died few seconds only from shu/dkb attack (and it is not mastered, only around 3-4 rangers).
That is also my disappointment, why should we spend if lowbies can defeat our mastered five star ranger?
I kept losing using my mastered rangers, but winning with lowbies.. but with hard effort... To be honest, I am disappointed with this patch.
Same here. Seems my master Bernard has gotten weaker, but I feel this only in team battle. Tested it with "battle with friends" and it seems fine. Either there is a glitch or opponent team stats gets a boost during team battle. Is it only happening to Bernard and similar tankers only?
ReplyDeleteSame here, special rangers seems to be not helping in battling
ReplyDeletemode since yesterday. Mastered rangers seems to have longer cool off- didn't actually calculate though.
But quite certain that my masked moon was easily KO by a meteor blast
Need help. My new ranger prince jamea and couple brown got error. The hero not visible and cant attack. But i can summon it. When i summon it. Its look like the enemy hit invisible un
ReplyDeleteUm, not sure, never seen this before. But I guess try the usual things. Restart game, restart your mobile device, or reinstall the game?
DeletePeople who had tank ranger issues, give it a try now. Some files got updated again. Might have reverted today's oddities.
ReplyDeleteIt's fixed... I think the damage output in PVP is much less than the stated value. My 90k DPS Cherina only do something like 15k on my friend's rangers in friend battle mode. I have been wondering about this since I saw my lvl 60 Dumpy trading a blow with another Dumpy without killing each other off.
DeleteIs it possible that what we experienced yesterday was how the full damage would be like?
Yes. It has been fixed.
ReplyDeleteMy master bernard is normal again. Can win the team battle again, but has lost many rank since yesterday :(
I dunno that it is a bug or intended experiment by line.
Yeah I think today's team battle is much make sense than yesterday..
DeleteEven if I lost, I lost to bunch of the same team of new rangers... Not to bunch of Shu and Sorcerer Cony.. Gosh I feel like yesterday's Shu was so powerful.. There's like 5 Shu inside 1 body lol
Thanks for all the constructive comments, reading this blog helps clear some unclear thoughts that I was pondering a few days ago.
ReplyDeleteAfter reading some of the comments , I believe being a non spending player like myself does have disadvantages when it comes to battling, however this could be dealt with if players spend more time to upgrade mineral production etc. I can understand the frustration of not winning , well that's the hard truth. Anyway it's a game, just enjoy and stay cool.
Hi panic, I had been using Luis for battling, as per your previous thread, Luis is definitely a odd ranger , packed with muscles but Luis jumps and opens up a gap for the opponent rangers to slaughter my defense line at the back. Haha. Guess there is no best out of two worlds.
After reading the new notification from official Line, I finally understand why I kept losing.. hmm..opponent could build up
ReplyDeletea crowd of shu in matter of seconds and starts pouring rain of golden palm attacks killing all my rangers ..haha
Oh yeah, I now understand why there is some players that could summon a lot of rangers in just a few seconds, something that is absurd.
DeleteThat's why I kept losing too yesterday, thankfully it has been fixed today.
So this is the reason, I was thinking how the AI can spawn so many rangers at the start. Well glad they caught it.
Delete150 bux without susu !!!!!!!
ReplyDeletedamn sad... T_T
Yeah me too. I gacha again for 200 rubies (totalling around 1500 rubies, which is more than 150 bux I think), but no susu at all.
DeleteIt is just not my luck.
Hi shuy1n, I am a non spending player, but I could kinda figure out how it feels to spend nut not getting the things you want. GACHA ガチャ basically depicts the spinning sound of turning the toy machine in Japan, but in this game it means you just bought a lottery ticket with no guarantee win.
DeleteA non spender would save the rubies and wait for the event day and hope for the best - a lot of effort and time with almost no returns, on the contrary if we get something good out of it we will be extremely happy just like a kid being fed with candies. The best is beating a group of special rangers without spending money.
Guess reading this you could imagine the disappointment when you spent time and money and got beaten by a bunch of lowbies, which in this case, the developers would be smirking cuz spenders would spend even more just to get back at the AI which had beaten you.
Just some thoughts , let's enjoy the game together, if you don't mind pls do add lightsupper, lightdinner and cafelii if I have the honor to be your sidekick lol
I have not get Susu yet:( There is another 10 days but there is no best bet about getting it anymore after today
Delete@lightsupper: if the AI had beaten me in normal way, maybe it will encourage me to spend more, but it is sadly not. In this case, that would mean bad news for developers :D
DeleteFortunately, developer has taken fast action to prevent such case to happen.
@george lee: what is the cheating from team battle players? no-delay ranger and no mineral cost?
Same here, though didn't spend as much, after 8 x (5+1) Gacha, not a single Susu. Plenty of lowbies or 5 stars rangers you can get from regular stage play. Instead of enticing me to spend more for rubies, it is doing the opposite.
DeleteHi I am the George Lee above, just changed my photo
ReplyDeleteThe only cheats I can find is unlimited rubies and coins, I won't install it of course and those cheating has made me lost my rank and my points ended up to 1900+, not 2000+ anymore
The cheating is from team battle players
ReplyDeleteHi, found your confession rather intriguing, what does that cheat help you in team battle? Could you elaborate? Cuz I was facing a few players who could dish out many rangers in a matter of seconds.
ReplyDeleteIf your points were deducted, those involved will have their points deducted which might cause movements in ranking, if your confessions are true
Hi panic..
ReplyDeleteThis is the first time i comment at your blog.
So far, your blog really usefull for us to play Line Ranger.
Just got 300 rubies from the Indonesia event.
And really lucky just got a master susu in one night.
My concern right now is, why the concept of the game changed so far.
Now all ranger fight each other. Isnt our target is saving sally?
Its almost two month and new stage not opening yet.
No open stage but the developer pushed player to play pvp or i should say pvc (player vs computer). I feel been fooled by the developer.
We need to save sally not fighting each other.
We need new stage.
I hope some of line corp staff read my comment.
Im really sorry using your blog for talking about new stage.
And sorry for my bad english.
Thanks a lot panic
Same sentiment. I can understand they like PVP and pushing out newer more powerful rangers as it encourages player to spend money to climb the rank. But I also hope they don't forget about saving sally. Maybe they can reverse the gameplay at the end and allow us to use enemies to stop the rangers.
DeleteI didn't cheat, I'm just glad it's back to normal
ReplyDeletethunder brown now has 1mil hp mastered
ReplyDeleteYeah, it has been changed.
DeleteI'm curious to choose between HHB lvl 60 and mastered thunder brown, or lvl 60 cherina? I had master bernard anyway.
My DKB seems to have an ATK boost also.
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